Such a travesty that Sylvain/Ingrid could have been a great ship (and it’s one of the few supports that goes out of its way to build romantic interest from one partner over multiple support conversations rather than having a proposal suddenly be dropped in the last one, and they have evolving Group Task and Dining dialogues) if not for how awful their paired ending is for Ingrid. Heh heh... link. But what if Glenn is still alive? It reads similarly to her VD/SS endings, where she goes down in history books and protects the one she loves, but she does so as a true knight. But to me, the fact Ingrid gave up everything she loved for a man... Well, that's a pretty tough pill to swallow. ... My point is that this has to end. I see what they were going for. When the war at last came to an end, Byleth and his wife, Ingrid, relocated to her hometown. Sylvain is not nearly as affected by the events at Duscur as his other friends. However, in BL, she never leaves and is actually granted permission by her father to go fight in the war. She knows what's up, since she's been a targeting for flirting and courting for a long time. A gentle pairing that makes me smile, and brings happiness to Sylvain. B support Ingrid: ... Sylvain: That's a heavy sigh...again. A subreddit to discuss the Fire Emblem series of games, and associated media. Sure, she's at odds with him, but she doesn't hate him. Why is it, out of all the childhood friends, is he the only one that 1) doesn't have an A support with Dimitri and 2) seems to be the least affected by leaving Dimitri's side? Women wanted Sylvain for his status and Crest, and men wanted Dorothea for her beauty and beautiful singing. A. They all feel good (one exception), where we see that rare side of Sylvain that only a select few are ever able to experience. Yeah, Ingrid saying "well now you've made it awkward" is funny, but it doesn't quite sell me on their eternal friendship. I'm not really going to say much here, other than her BL route clearly is the happier one overall. J. Seteth: This ones solid yet odd. There's just...I don't know. Most well-known is how the "Warrior Queen" drew her own weapon to repel an assassin's blade meant for her husband, a tale which lived on in chivalric storybooks for generations. Sylvain… A subreddit to discuss the Fire Emblem series of games, and associated media. And since most of his endings have him changing the Crest reliance in nobles, chances are he would have done the same here too. But of course. I like how the focus on their supports isn't on how Ignatz is too nervous and gentle for his own good; rather, it's on his art. Dorothea is an intelligent woman, and she sees right through Sylvain's philandering in an instant. I still think they should have had supports actually tackling Sylvain's philandering ways more and getting to the crux of the problem, but ultimately, I do not think it was necessary. I don't know about poet but you really made my day! I also found their A support adorable, with them trying not to say "I did it for you" to hide their feelings. And she goes down in history as a fairy tale of her own, just like the ones she used to read and admire. I'm glad you enjoyed it! She cares about her father. I hope you can understand my English:), Been looking forward to this one! Marriage is not a defining feature for Ingrid's happiness, nor is companionship. Married to someone she loves and got to become a knight in the process? Here's the context: "Though he went down in history as an extraordinary lord, he could not have done so without the constant support and counsel of his wife, Ingrid, whose wisdom and tenacity/guidance ensured that the people would prosper." I thought Felix save Ingrid from a heavy invisible fetters of Glenn when I played the game in Chinese version (which have the same lines with Japanese version)... All in all, I think Ingrid can follow her mind to find many other “dreams”. And their BL ending really reflects that. She may not have been a knight, but she threw herself into it as a knight would. Fandom: Fire Emblem Three Houses. As a supporter of Sylvain/Ingrid ship, I agree with you that their ending is a little disappointing. Together, they were able to set out to do what they wished to do, finding comfort in their companionship, then settling down together in peace. When Galatea territory was seized, Ingrid argued strongly for the preservation of its borders. Just... a divine ending. In VD/SS, that line change shows us she parted ways with her father. Felix departed as soon as the job was finished, however, and the two never met again. She may not become a knight, but she does become something just as good, and maybe equal or slightly better. Galatea always suffered from lack of resources, and she found a way to lift up her people through farming. This ending is noteworthy for it outright stating that Ingrid "abandoned" her territory, where other endings used terms like "declined" or "left". Both of them would be happy in this ending. Ahhh, food solves so many problems! The heiress of House Daphnel does bring up a good point in telling Sylvain that the more he hurts people, the more actions that will bite him in the end. She is still a warrior. It's not as great as their support conversations. She gets to know a person from Duscur, realizes the error of her ways and repents. However, I feel like more needed to be done. I love this pair. Ingrid (while always honest with Sylvain) doesn’t seem romantically attracted to him in their support chain, so their pairing feels like Ingrid giving in to her father’s desires to marry a more stable noble family to try to have Crested children, though obviously neither Sylvain nor Ingrid care about that. When Galatea territory was seized, Ingrid argued strongly for the preservation of its borders. Ooohhhh, I'm curious to see what her endings have to offer! Ingrid: And stop acting so nonchalant about getting hurt or killed. Dimitri got to see the horrors of everyone's death, while Ingrid chose to process the pain by believing they died honorably. And she doesn't need one. And she never reconciled with her family. Both are able to achieve their absolute dreams in this ending. They just lack the chemistry. Technically, they are happy endings. That's pretty damn in character for him. I did not feel any romantic chemistry between them, although I think they had the foundations for a solid friendship. Her father cares about her and is willing to listen. But in Ingrid's endings in which she fulfills her dream of becoming a knight, it's explicitly stated that she does so. In B support, Felix said “You're not meant to be a knight”. So previously, I decided to start looking at the character endings and try to determine what their ultimate happiest ending is, based off their character quirks and personality, and just overall tone of the ending as well. And he fails to connect to someone truly special. Ingrid sits in an uncomfortable place where she does not hate her father, but also wants to follow her own path. This basically reads the same as VD/SS, just without becoming queen and actually becoming a real knight explicitly. However, if I thought Ashe and Ingrid felt platonic (although adorable), Raphael feels even more so. I guess I just wish the A support had a less awkward ending? As they worked together to restore the Kingdom, the pair fell in love and were eventually married. However, it comes from a place of concern and care. It's hard to imagine now. I am a personal sucker for her ending with Dedue. There's something beautiful about how she only becomes a knight on BL route and earns his approval, rather than running away and failing to do either. BUT DAMMIT, I LOVE HER AND SYLVAIN TOGETHER *slams fist on table*, I honestly wasn't all that crazy about Ingrid marrying Claude either but damn, the Ending itself has me deceased. However, it's pretty amusing that while he was considered a wonderful lord, he was so renown for his cheating that cheaters were literally called his "sons", or at least the sons of his household. Aaannnd that concludes it! BTW, Ingrid is similar to Felix in that a lot of her endings depend on whether she sticks around the Blue Lions or not. Honestly, I might of really liked it if that didn't play out like it did. Who you long to be with because their mere presence calms your soul. This is the only Byleth ending that mentions he did away with the Crest system in his territory directly. When the new king was crowned in Faerghus, both Ashe and Ingrid left their homes to travel to Fhirdiad and pledge themselves to the royal family as knights. And it also works well for Ignatz. Press J to jump to the feed. They are still close friends, but are unable to find a relationship deeper than just plain friendship, unlike Dimitri does with Dedue like, they are kind of lovers or Felix. Well, now that I got the chance to read them and give them so thought, I gotta say I agree with you. Probably because I used FByleth and that kinda cemented in my head for the character. Here they actually get married, but it's a rough start. It was an act that caught her by surprise, and brought a light blush to her face as he held her right hand up. Complete collection of all available endings for every character in Fire Emblem Three Houses BL is it's own animal, however. No, the reason why these endings are lower is because she never got the emotional growth with her family as she did in BL. Furthermore, we prepared the major Tier List & Rankings about Character and Job Classes. Though he went down in history as an extraordinary lord, he could not have done so without the constant support and counsel of his wife, Ingrid, whose wisdom and tenacity ensured that the people would prosper. Sylvain seems the least affected by Dimitri's death in paths like GD. She wants to protect nobility. The BL ending really seems to force Ingrid into the supportive wife role, which really doesn't fit her in the least. Now, this is interesting, because according to my research, Ingrid can only get this ending with Seteth in the BL route. The context clearly implies that the two are taking a supportive role in governance to Sylvain. He actually ended up being one of my favourite characters. This ending ends happily, but starts out pretty rough. Ah, Claude. Wow... thank you! Sylvain is one of the more well written characters in the game and I like how he's actually self-aware of his own actions/personality. Let's look at them again: CD/SS/CF- "Now that I have parted ways with my father, there is nothing stopping me from pursing my dream", BL- "Now that this war has begun, my father has allowed me to fight for my homeland.". It's one of the reasons why she connects well with Dimitri- they both believe they are plagues upon the world. "...wisdom and tenacity ensured that the people would prosper.". The A supports after were funny. I find it interesting that her ending with Sylvain doesn't change depending on her route. But while it's not outright stated that Ingrid is not a knight in her Sylvain ending, so you can headcanon it into the ending if you wish. Some years later, there was an attack on the castle town, and the duke lost the use of his sword arm from an injury sustained protecting his wife. Hey, thanks for the thoughtful reply! Without her king's house to serve as a knight, she simply returns to her territory, like Sylvain, and works hard to restore it. A joyous ending for our Holy Knight of Serios! After his coronation, Dimitri assumed the throne of the Holy Kingdom of Faerghus and spent his life ruling justly over Fódlan. Anyways, the past between the two and there conflict over how Glenn died is resolved somewhat in there A support and this paired ending flows naturally from that. Cookies help us deliver our Services. I've already done Linhardt, Felix, Lysithea, Dorothea, Sylvain, Hilda, and Edelgard. Do you take requests? If you kill Ingrid in other route, her final words will be “Do I become a similar person like him(Glenn)?”(in Japanese/Chinese version). /Mercedes: That must have been difficult for you. In the case with Felix, the only way to get their happy ending together is to go Blue Lions. Due to their efforts, they went down in history as an extraordinary lord and lady. Ingrid's endings with her otome game childhood friends are all bad for her, the best ones are outside of her house or with Ashe. She is able to see right through him and talk to him, the real him, like no one else can. She specifically decides to form her own Knight corps to serve as personal bodyguards to protect the nobility. They tore down the old ways, and made sure their children were loved. I can safely count those number of people in my life on one hand who have made me feel this way. That's just an amazing title. So now, she no longer feels obligated towards duty and is free to finally become a knight. Though he went down in history as an extraordinary lord, it nevertheless became customary to refer to cheaters as "sons of Gautier.". He held true to the ideals of knighthood, proudly serving the king. So, in short summary, all of this paired endings are equally brilliant because they all accomplish the same goal- Sylvain is able to establish a meaningful relationship where he can be himself, and be at peace with it all. However, ultimately Sylvain comes out fine regardless of the path you take. I guess I'll keep going for now! He tries to be sincere with her, and truly feels at ease in her presence. Really glad to see that people are still interested in writing up and reading these kinds of posts. /. So I want to protect those I hold dear.” (If you play Japanese version, the words are more straightforward: “I know I can’t obey King’s order without hesitation……I can’t make a quick decision. Slightly below them is the Raphael-Other ending. I could call it debatable. P.o.V. From the sounds of it, with her support with Seteth, her father may be stubborn but not unreasonable. It's one of the reasons why I really like Seteth. But now, we start to see it change. This will reflect in the conclusion, but for now let's hop over to the next ending. Another acceptable ending for Ingrid. The philanderer himself! But his most depressing ending is with Felix-Other's ending. Through hard work, pure grit, and a truly knightly dedication to the people, they were able to transform the barren landscape into what would, decades later, become known as the most fertile grounds in all of Fódlan. I only put this ending (and Ingrid's, Dorothea's, and Felix's endings) slightly lower because he doesn't explicitly seem to earn that new outcome on life as he does with Byleth. Dramatically grips my heart. He's not really messing around; he truly wants to get to know her, and her with him. Though Ingrid contributed to the court in her position as queen, she also famously guarded her king in a physical capacity. Edit: And same, I felt it was almost poetic how leaving her family and father behind results in her also leaving her dream. More specifically, 'ensured that' could be interpreted as 'handled defence and military affairs for the people, creating a safe and secure environment for the people to prosper'. This one is a bit meaty, so bear with me. As Margrave Gautier, Sylvain devoted his life to improving relations with the people of the Sreng region. It's not the racism, I like that she overcomes it, and I like that she and Dedue are purely platonic friends (whereas she and Ashe are so shippable omg). Ingrid - Stalwart Knight (Azure Moon route). Edit: WHAT THE SHIT I just found out that old FE7 series was made by u/LaqOfInterest, this sub’s current mod! As Faerghus worked with the Church of Seiros to advance policy, Ingrid served as an envoy between the two. All in all, a wonderfully pleasant ending. I honestly have no major objections to this ending's suggestion that they may have gotten married. But I think I can safely say I wasn't sold on this pairing based off their supports. Remember, I do not subscribe to the idea for Ingrid that she needs a man to make her happy, and her normal ending has her never taking a husband. This fits them much better then the BL ending but is still unsatisfying for me. The BL ending I love more though. Without the Goddess Tower conversation, the romance comes out of left field, and the A support ends with Sylvain just brushing off his issues with women and then in the S support resolving that by having found one woman he trusts to want him for more than his Crest. Beauty and the… Pairing: Dimitri Alexandre Blaiddyd x Reader, Sylvain Jose Gautier x Reader, Felix Hugo Fraldarius x Reader (Not all at once). I wouldn't be surprised if she eventually had a heart to heart with him. Phew! Just look for the part number at the top of each comment. I tried to ignore context of other endings, because they may not always happen depending on how you ended up playing the game. He's a very stable individual, even though there may be some emotional trauma lurking in his heart. In all other paths, Ingrid fails to reach knighthood, or at least as far as we can tell from the endings, and instead fulfills her duty as a noble. That's a good question. I'm not a tool for furthering my family's fortunes. Analyzing endings is a perfect idea, because it’s practically impossible to cover the sheer number of supports in this game, but endings give you how the character’s story arc wrap up, and what the relationship they had with their partner is like. Gotta give it some points for that~. He had one older brother Miklan, who was disinherited by House Gautier, as it is required for the family head to bear a Crest. Not at all. I guess she follows her heart, but they just fuck off into the wilderness, never becoming a knight or anything, really. As for Felix and Dimitri, their relationship is one of the most complicated in the game, barring maybe Edelgard and Dimitri's relationship, and a lot of emphasis is placed upon it. In every other route except BL, Ingrid had to abandon her territory (this is further emphasized by the fact she has to be granted the right to govern it after it was seized) and her father and family. He married Ingrid, the daughter of Count Galatea, and the couple spared no expense in restoring both their territories, paying special attention to Galatea's desperate need for food and funds. A short silence followed, only ending when Sylvain reached over and held the future knight's hand. He showed them, through his artwork, a side of Ingrid that they had not yet seen: her valor and bravery, fighting in defense of Fódlan. As for me, I prefer to think that Ingrid becomes a knight in this ending. Since he has so few paired endings, I appreciate you taking the time to review the support as well. Sylvain Ha! No mention of what he did as a Margrave. He got so flustered asking if she was interested in anyone, hoping that maybe he could be the one to be with her (and the running away, pffft, dork). Contrast with Ingrid's focus on defence. Ingrid and Sylvain are childhood friends, and while they may argue, it wouldn't easily destroy what they have. Her Church/GD-Byleth ending lets her still fulfill the physical aspect of being a knight but lacking the distinction which is a really odd choice by the writers. And we get a glimpse at honest Sylvain. Search Works. She even goes down in history books, just like the ones she used to read. It sounds as though he died with a heavy heart–a heart that carried regret. Ingrid becomes a knight for the royal family, uses her position and friendship with Seteth to help coordinate relief efforts with church. But that's why I like about this pairing. So happy, but lacking of her dream. Mostly equal once again, but slightly lower once more, is the Byleth endings for VD/SS. Hours. They are “至情”の騎士(“Sincere” Knight - Sylvain)and “清廉”の騎士(“Honest” Knight - Ingrid)(I notice that in English version they slightly change the meaning of them). As Galatea's prosperity grew, so too did the love between Ingrid and Ashe. I also love that the ending leaves the romance up in the air between the two. The first reason is that it’s hard to think Ingrid will give up her dream easily. :D. And I plan to get to everyone, including Marianne and Fabio von Aegir. At his side every step of the way was Ingrid, who left House Galatea to serve House Blaiddyd as a knight. All the childhood friends can A support Ingrid because (let's face it), she's a woman and they're men. Rather, he hides behind a smile and charming words whenever he isn't be forthcoming about his thoughts. He achieved a great deal, including fostering relations with Faerghus and helping to institute sweeping organizational changes within the church. In this route, there is no indication he becomes a father. Dorothea’s paired ending with Sylvain is kind of silly, but I think it carries across that their flirtatious natures and has a sense of being a teasing but loving relationship. Her request was granted, and she was appointed to rule. Her father means well, and has even sacrificed much, including starving himself, so that Ingrid could grow up happy and healthy. They are both parts of the reason why I ship this pair. Next up is Marianne! Well, that's a tough one. (I'll let you in on a secret on my I keep writing these. With so few supports and most of them not depending on the route, I will be doing the entire analysis in the conclusion. Actually love this ending. So I'm going to approach her similarly, comparing each ending with each other for each pairing. There are much better companions for both of them than each other. Sylvain is the second green tome cavalier released in the summer months of 2020, and he made his debut appearance in Heroes on the heels of Selena. These two are two peas in a pod. Id know dedues position being of asian muslim descent myself but thats besides the point. The use of the word 'Tenacity' followed by 'ensured (they would) prosper' suggests that Ingrid did take up the role of a Knight and actively defended the people. I. Dedue: This one I have mixed feelings on. It fit both there characters and both got to be happy. If that's not poetic, for a woman of Foldan blinded by hate who later advocates for Duscur with a Duscan man by her side, then I don't know what is. Paired endings are more than just shipping tools. Tenacity implies Ingrid took a more active role while Mercedes chose to use more oversight. volume_up. And in both endings, especially Claude's, she does not become a knight. Mercedes is just a special woman. Learning that there were still places where he could fight, Felix abandoned his noble title and chose to make a living with his sword. It's like there in the same place they started at the beginning. A very noble cause indeed. She returns to her territory instead of becoming a knight. Right off the bat, I'm going to come out swinging by saying I think that, of the unique endings for Ingrid, Claude's and Sylvain's are really not terribly great for her among this particular grouping of endings. Felix? She just wants to become a knight, but she also knows her father means well and has sacrificed much for her well-being. Like in Claude's ending, she becomes queen, but she also is still a knight and fights heroically like she's always wanted. I' of the opinion that the writing team didn't do a great job with it. He's stubborn, but even Ingrid believes he's doting, based on her supports with Seteth. 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